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Title: What happend to KeeWee bikes?
Post by: Janitor. on Jan 28, 2008, 22:36
Ed's thread got me thinking, what ever happend to keewee?

i remember ooooooooodling at the cromoeight, but i havnt heard anything about keewee bikes in ages...


xxx
Title: Re: What happend to KeeWee bikes?
Post by: Andy@Dartmoorcycles on Jan 28, 2008, 22:41
They stopped making the cro-mo DH bikes in favour of stickering up tiwanese catalogue bikes (a la Azonic). Big shame really, but i guess the profit wasn't in the steel stuff.
Title: Re: What happend to KeeWee bikes?
Post by: Shirebikes on Jan 28, 2008, 22:50
www.keewee.co.nz

as andy says, stopped making steel frames as there wasnt enough demand for steel full sus bikes as the masses always think steel = heavy

ed
Title: Re: What happend to KeeWee bikes?
Post by: V10_OLI on Jan 28, 2008, 23:02
Thats a real shame, I had a Chromoeight for a few month until it got nicked and it was amazing to ride. Looks a little bit like scaffolding welded together but was so fun to ride. Seemed to corner amazingly, deffinately wasnt heavy either mine was around the 40lb mark with 888's. Wouldn't mind another one day.

Oli
Title: Re: What happend to KeeWee bikes?
Post by: [Cookie Monster] on Jan 28, 2008, 23:15
I used to have a Stealth, it was an awesome hardtail, wish I still had it :(
Title: Re: What happend to KeeWee bikes?
Post by: Daddy Snoops on Jan 28, 2008, 23:27
I have been trying to get hold of another cromo8. Even been trying Aus and NZ ebay
Title: Re: What happend to KeeWee bikes?
Post by: V10_OLI on Jan 28, 2008, 23:36
I have been trying to get hold of another cromo8. Even been trying Aus and NZ ebay

If you find one with a handsprayed red paintjob, and a drilled lower shock plate to accommodate a m6 nyloc nut. Its miiiine, and i would appreciate being informed lol.
Would love to know where it is.

(http://i5.pinkbike.com/photo/1030/pbpic1030260.jpg)
Title: Re: What happend to KeeWee bikes?
Post by: Daddy Snoops on Jan 28, 2008, 23:43
Dont worry dude, x2

(http://i1.pinkbike.com/photo/344/pbpic344412.jpg)
Title: Re: What happend to KeeWee bikes?
Post by: Andy@Dartmoorcycles on Jan 29, 2008, 09:10
mine till last week...
http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/1473143/



I know i should put the photo here, but i never seem to be able to get it to work.
"Er..Hello....um...My name is Andy and i'm a computer spaz."
Title: Re: What happend to KeeWee bikes?
Post by: orangesrule on Jan 29, 2008, 09:17
They stopped making the cro-mo DH bikes in favour of stickering up tiwanese catalogue bikes (a la Azonic). Big shame really, but i guess the profit wasn't in the steel stuff.

Hmm, the keewee progressor is nearly identical to the Bergamont bigair team.  :-\


(http://www.bikemagic.com/news/images/Big_Air_Team_hi.jpg)

(http://www.torpedo7.co.nz/torpedo7/images/products/KWBMAN7BA_large.jpg)
Title: Re: What happend to KeeWee bikes?
Post by: chodjinn on Jan 29, 2008, 09:34
Mmm I miss my chromo-8.  SOld it to some German bloke through eBay.  Cornered very well, adn not that heavy, although mine was built up with silly big forks and 24" wheels/3" tyres lol
Title: Re: What happend to KeeWee bikes?
Post by: stinkyboy on Jan 29, 2008, 11:15
thats gotta be the same bike, i liked keewee's too, shame really
Title: Re: What happend to KeeWee bikes?
Post by: Chris@RHUK on Jan 29, 2008, 14:24
You are correct. Someone has been ripped off - and as far as we know, action is being taken.

Chris.
Title: Re: What happend to KeeWee bikes?
Post by: orangesrule on Jan 29, 2008, 18:15
Haha also noticed the that the keewee Recon and bergamont kiez pro frames are VERY silimar aswell.
Title: Re: What happend to KeeWee bikes?
Post by: JLo on Jan 29, 2008, 18:19
Thats because they are catalogue bikes, check the old Astrix/solid designs
Title: Re: What happend to KeeWee bikes?
Post by: orangesrule on Jan 29, 2008, 18:28
Thats what i intatially thought, but then chris@RHUK said they were taking action against them.
Title: Re: What happend to KeeWee bikes?
Post by: bob on Jan 29, 2008, 19:25
I have been trying to get hold of another cromo8. Even been trying Aus and NZ ebay
Shaun - Kiwis seem to favour http://www.trademe.co.nz (http://www.trademe.co.nz) rather than the 'Bay.  (still, no Chromo8s on there, it's mainly Stealths)
Title: Re: What happend to KeeWee bikes?
Post by: Daddy Snoops on Jan 30, 2008, 13:18
Cheers Bob :), think I got one sorted.

How are you doing anyway?
Title: Re: What happend to KeeWee bikes?
Post by: bob on Jan 30, 2008, 20:54
Cheers Bob :), think I got one sorted.

How are you doing anyway?
Oh I'm all good, apart from being back in the UK...  :'(  I got sent a load of pics of us riding the DH at Coronet Peak near Queenstown today and I'm back in mourning!
But I shall be at Gethin on the 9th...
How's you?
Title: Re: What happend to KeeWee bikes?
Post by: Daddy Snoops on Jan 31, 2008, 13:37
Ah so someones being having lots of fun then! I want to to an odd race this season, Abercarn and Cearsws I think are the ones I will try get done.

Im good thanks, knee is giving me more jip than before my op though :/. Sold the DH bike in April and am riding MX now, so much more riding for the same money! Looking for a DH bike though as Im looking at going to France in the summer, may take the MX bike to and ride some tracks on the way there and back
Title: Re: What happend to KeeWee bikes?
Post by: Topshelf on Feb 03, 2008, 14:00
You're all basically right, the cromo Keewe's just didn't sell all that well, at least not in enough quantity for them to keep producing them, too many people thinking they would be heavy just cos they were steel.

It all comes down to money I'm afraid, it costs a lot of money to produce small numbers of frames by hand in NZ so it's hard to compete with mass produced Taiwanese alloy frames and far too few people are willing to pay a premium for it. Keewee took the business decision to go into rebadging Taaiwanese alloy frames and now sell far more bikes and make more money.

Myself, i only ever wanted to import brands/products that were a bit different and a bit special so wasn't geared up for and didn't want to start doing huge numbers of complete clone bikes.

It's amusing to see that 2/3 years on people are still saying how they were the nicest bike they ever had and how they wished they still had it etc when at the time it was hard to sell more than 5 frames a year! The cromoeight is still the nicest DH bike I ever had, good suspension action, good pedalling, great cornering and next to no maintenance.

The DH market is very small and saturated with good products, some of it at very low prices and it is this that pushes small and innovative producers out of the market. Look at all the small hand builders in the US and they're all doing 29ers and SS now as that's the only market that can support them. Will be interesting to see where they go once the big boys take that over as well.
Title: Re: What happend to KeeWee bikes?
Post by: DeadTom on Feb 03, 2008, 14:27
Will be interesting to see where they go once the big boys take that over as well.

i think depressing is likely to be a more accurate word than interesting :-\
and yeah the old keewee's were badass, i wanted a cromotoze sooooo badly :)

edit: also just noticed on that keewee website that it says keewee changed ownership in 2002. not long before they stopped making the steel frames? :-\
Title: Re: What happend to KeeWee bikes?
Post by: Teaboy on Feb 03, 2008, 14:45
I doubt we'll be seeing anyone take any legal action over anyone else. Both companies just choose frame designs from a taiwanese catalogue, make a few personalisations and sell them as different brands. If KeeWee are successfully sued for selling those frames i'll eat my hat!

tom
Title: Re: What happend to KeeWee bikes?
Post by: Topshelf on Feb 03, 2008, 16:50
Keewee hardly stole the new design off Bergamont. They were sourcing frames off the factory making the Bergamont frames and the factory offered them the same model. Will probably find that as Keewee only retail them in Australia and NZ then they are okay.

Can't moan about cool bike makes going out of business when nobody is buying them. All the time people are happy buying into a brand because of the marketing or low price or the rider's racing them then the small co will always struggle in a niche product.

Keewee was bought just before I started dealing with them, Trevor who ran Keewee was kept on to design and make stuff and they were keen to drive the business forward and grow it. They really wanted to keep production in NZ but sales just couldn't justify it. They then made the decision to do what most companies do and go to the far east and have fairly generic frames. They also run a big mail order business down there too. I guess buying in generic bikes in bulk and selling products based on low price mailorder is more profitable than making unique high quality handmade bikes. Tells you a lot about our industry.
Title: Re: What happend to KeeWee bikes?
Post by: Mark. on Feb 03, 2008, 17:46
but couldn't keewee make the cromo8 but keep the chepo bikes on to help with the money woes ?

not saying there going to, but they could

mark
Title: Re: What happend to KeeWee bikes?
Post by: Topshelf on Feb 19, 2008, 22:33
Why would a business make a product that didn't generate any money for them? They would have to be made in very small batches and that is even more expensive.
Title: Re: What happend to KeeWee bikes?
Post by: [Cookie Monster] on Feb 19, 2008, 23:33
Found a pic of my old Keewee - http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/330987/
http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/330988/
Title: Re: What happend to KeeWee bikes?
Post by: Razor on Feb 20, 2008, 13:16
Piccy of my old Chromo8  :'(

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/450164/
Title: Re: What happend to KeeWee bikes?
Post by: gridds on Feb 20, 2008, 15:28
Piccy of my old Chromo8  :'(

(http://i2.pinkbike.com/photo/450/pbpic450164.jpg)


That's nice, what happened to it?
Title: Re: What happend to KeeWee bikes?
Post by: Razor on Feb 20, 2008, 16:31
Piccy of my old Chromo8  :'(

(http://i2.pinkbike.com/photo/450/pbpic450164.jpg)


That's nice, what happened to it?

Was eventually sold to a loving new owner and was replaced by an M1 which as also now departed the shed leaving just my Bullit  :(

...or did you mean the ghetto bbq in the background  ;) , that was left at my flat when we moved and replaced with a Weber.  :)
Title: Re: What happend to KeeWee bikes?
Post by: Janitor. on Feb 20, 2008, 16:53
That cromo8 is absolutely lovely razor mate! I dont think i'd ever be able to part with that  :-\
Title: Re: What happend to KeeWee bikes?
Post by: Razor on Feb 20, 2008, 16:55
That cromo8 is absolutely lovely razor mate! I dont think i'd ever be able to part with that  :-\

I had to own an M1 before they became extinct, alas it was the only way!  :-\
Title: Re: What happend to KeeWee bikes?
Post by: James C on Feb 21, 2008, 15:54
Great bikes Keewee, I just don't get to use my CromoEIGHT anymore, it sits all neglected in the shed.
Title: Re: What happend to KeeWee bikes?
Post by: -Mark- on Feb 21, 2008, 16:38
i remeber keewee bikes lol,last time i saw one was back in 2004 when mbuk were testing one of their jump/street frames,was going to get a cromo8 of their website but couldnt be bothered to pay import duties.
Title: Re: What happend to KeeWee bikes?
Post by: BOOYAHH on Feb 21, 2008, 17:02
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Sports/Cycling/Mountain-bikes/auction-141346342.htm

brother is in australia for 4 months, he could perhaps pop accross and collect!

haha jokes, but that looks nice as!
Title: Re: What happend to KeeWee bikes?
Post by: Shirebikes on Feb 21, 2008, 23:49
mine just after i built it up... sold it a year after and regretted it. and have since bought it back and am in the process of repairing and rebuilding it...

ed
(http://i3.pinkbike.com/photo/479/pbpic479385.jpg)
Title: Re: What happend to KeeWee bikes?
Post by: Razor on Feb 22, 2008, 09:25
mine just after i built it up... sold it a year after and regretted it. and have since bought it back and am in the process of repairing and rebuilding it...

ed
(http://i3.pinkbike.com/photo/479/pbpic479385.jpg)

Ah, the chainguard mod I never got round to doing!
Title: Re: What happend to KeeWee bikes?
Post by: Shirebikes on Feb 22, 2008, 13:52
that mod was dont with a heat gun and a wallpaper scraper as i dont have a dremel or any files...
Title: Re: What happend to KeeWee bikes?
Post by: Alpine Gangstarrr on Feb 22, 2008, 14:40
God - Hadn't occured to me to do a mod on the chain guide when I had this frame - Would've made a hell of a lot of sense to do so though.
Title: Re: What happend to KeeWee bikes?
Post by: James C on Feb 22, 2008, 14:44
I never saw the need and have been riding them since they came into the country (I had the first ever one).
Title: Re: What happend to KeeWee bikes?
Post by: Topshelf on Feb 24, 2008, 19:04
Chainguide always worked fine for me, the only little trick was that if you ran a ring larger than 42t to remove the little nylon guide above the lower roller.

Had people saying you needed a bashguard and now loads of chain guides don't use bash guards to save weight and no one is complaining....
Title: Re: What happend to KeeWee bikes?
Post by: jake-snake on Sep 30, 2019, 16:52
I love a Cromo 8 if anyonw has one?
Title: Re: What happend to KeeWee bikes?
Post by: MintyMoFo on Oct 05, 2019, 17:58
I love a Cromo 8 if anyonw has one?

Alright Jake!

:-)

Tough crowd!
Lol

I spotted a Keewee 4130 DH ish frame with CK headset for £200 on ebayuk a week or so ago 👍