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Re: Tell me about neck braces - now the hypes passed!
« Reply #135 on: Jun 05, 2011, 17:08 »
Plus I'm not sure I'd trust the mathematics of a group of people who can't even draw a bar chart properly...

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MOVEO Brace Dynamic is a motorcycle protection device to be used together with a full-face helmet. This device helps to reduce possible neck injuries caused by hiper-flexion, hiper-extension, axial load, shear load, lateral hiper-flexion and whiplash, limiting rotation and transferring excessive load from the neck to the rest of the body, through his rigid frame.

The frames of this MOVEO Neck Brace model are made of hermoplastic material reinforced with fiberglass, making this device highly resistant and with an optimum performance in case of critical impact situations.

As the other MOVEO Neck Brace models, this neck brace features different ways to couple with jackets (velcro, straps, etc), and the innovative flexible hinge design (FHD) system, lwhich allows the use of the MOVEO Neck Brace Dynamic in your daily commuting and besides, to practice motocross, adventure tours or racing activities.

Thanks to his design, the system fits up to 4 different sizes (S,M,L,XL) without necessity of changing or removing parts.

Not that it necessarily has any bearing whatsoever on the product but they can't spell either.

add to that the miss-spelling of hyper-flexion, and hyper extension...kinda vital spellings there.

Has it just gone through an e-translator from German by any chance?
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Re: Tell me about neck braces - now the hypes passed!
« Reply #136 on: Jun 06, 2011, 02:02 »
Wow, this thread got just as gay as all the rest.

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Re: Tell me about neck braces - now the hypes passed!
« Reply #137 on: Jun 06, 2011, 10:04 »
Plus I'm not sure I'd trust the mathematics of a group of people who can't even draw a bar chart properly...

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MOVEO Brace Dynamic is a motorcycle protection device to be used together with a full-face helmet. This device helps to reduce possible neck injuries caused by hiper-flexion, hiper-extension, axial load, shear load, lateral hiper-flexion and whiplash, limiting rotation and transferring excessive load from the neck to the rest of the body, through his rigid frame.

The frames of this MOVEO Neck Brace model are made of hermoplastic material reinforced with fiberglass, making this device highly resistant and with an optimum performance in case of critical impact situations.

As the other MOVEO Neck Brace models, this neck brace features different ways to couple with jackets (velcro, straps, etc), and the innovative flexible hinge design (FHD) system, lwhich allows the use of the MOVEO Neck Brace Dynamic in your daily commuting and besides, to practice motocross, adventure tours or racing activities.

Thanks to his design, the system fits up to 4 different sizes (S,M,L,XL) without necessity of changing or removing parts.

Not that it necessarily has any bearing whatsoever on the product but they can't spell either.

add to that the miss-spelling of hyper-flexion, and hyper extension...kinda vital spellings there.

Has it just gone through an e-translator from German by any chance?

They are Spanish.

We only got the official go ahead that we could start doing them in the UK on the 1st June.  So I'm afraid us doing their UK translations of the website is on the list of things to do, but its not a quick process, especially with something so scientific.

the new FLi Distribution is here - shop with us, and the order is passed to your local dealer to supply.

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Re: Tell me about neck braces - now the hypes passed!
« Reply #138 on: Jun 06, 2011, 10:24 »
Also, motorbike protection is possibly over-rated for MTB use (and not in the hype way).

Using road certified lid, for example, puts your brain at greater risk than it needs to be as it's designed for a much faster crash than is achievable on a mountainbike. Thus the EPS liner is harder, meaning it squashes less than a softer one in a low speed crash, giving your brain less room to slow down.[1]

Essentially, Mr Paton's doing himself a disservice by wearing that SE instead of a D3.

Does the same go for neck braces? is an MTB scorpion with <20kg of bike landing on you equal to an MX scorpion with 150kg of bike landing on you?

One size does not fit all.

[1] Very interesting reading.
« Last Edit: Jun 06, 2011, 14:42 by Alex @ Racersguild.co.uk »

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Re: Tell me about neck braces - now the hypes passed!
« Reply #139 on: Jun 06, 2011, 14:30 »
^ Page can not be found?  :-\

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Re: Tell me about neck braces - now the hypes passed!
« Reply #140 on: Jun 06, 2011, 14:42 »
Fixed.

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Re: Tell me about neck braces - now the hypes passed!
« Reply #141 on: Oct 08, 2012, 13:20 »
I've had one for a while now and I don't ever ride without it (DH that is). Last year it saved my neck in Saalbach when I collided with a horse at around 40 mph. We headbutted each other and I got clothes-lined off my bike and dislocated my shoulder and lost ½ of the skin on my forearm. Without the brace I can hand-on-heart say that I would have been in a much worse shape. My D2 was smashed but I didn't even get a sore neck or anything.

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Re: Tell me about neck braces - now the hypes passed!
« Reply #142 on: Oct 23, 2012, 17:08 »
I can verify that neckbraces are absolutely lifesavers. I always used to think that they were stupid, overpriced pieces of rubbish designed to get as much money out of people by playing on one of those little fears everyone has about becoming paralysed for the rest of their lives.

Not at all true. Before I got my neck brace, I was breaking my neck on a regular basis. Now I have one and I haven't accidentally killed myself once.

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Re: Tell me about neck braces - now the hypes passed!
« Reply #143 on: Oct 26, 2012, 21:12 »
Also, motorbike protection is possibly over-rated for MTB use (and not in the hype way).

Using road certified lid, for example, puts your brain at greater risk than it needs to be as it's designed for a much faster crash than is achievable on a mountainbike. Thus the EPS liner is harder, meaning it squashes less than a softer one in a low speed crash, giving your brain less room to slow down.[1]

Essentially, Mr Paton's doing himself a disservice by wearing that SE instead of a D3.

Does the same go for neck braces? is an MTB scorpion with <20kg of bike landing on you equal to an MX scorpion with 150kg of bike landing on you?

One size does not fit all.

[1] Very interesting reading.

I'm calling b*lls**t on that one. Speaking as someone who has written off a few from compression damage following crashes...

They're not too hard or thick or rated for too many G's. You can achieve 30mph to a dead stop if you hit a tree/rock on an MTB. That's plenty enough G force to need an MX lid. Ask a physicist.

Maybe for XC or family use it would be better to have a "softer" helmet that decelerated you head more slowly but was useless for fast crashes. But for DH, MX helmets are where it's at.
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Re: Tell me about neck braces - now the hypes passed!
« Reply #144 on: Oct 26, 2012, 22:47 »
Also, motorbike protection is possibly over-rated for MTB use (and not in the hype way).

Using road certified lid, for example, puts your brain at greater risk than it needs to be as it's designed for a much faster crash than is achievable on a mountainbike. Thus the EPS liner is harder, meaning it squashes less than a softer one in a low speed crash, giving your brain less room to slow down.[1]

Essentially, Mr Paton's doing himself a disservice by wearing that SE instead of a D3.

Does the same go for neck braces? is an MTB scorpion with <20kg of bike landing on you equal to an MX scorpion with 150kg of bike landing on you?

One size does not fit all.

[1] Very interesting reading.

I'm calling b*lls**t on that one. Speaking as someone who has written off a few from compression damage following crashes...

They're not too hard or thick or rated for too many G's. You can achieve 30mph to a dead stop if you hit a tree/rock on an MTB. That's plenty enough G force to need an MX lid. Ask a physicist.

Maybe for XC or family use it would be better to have a "softer" helmet that decelerated you head more slowly but was useless for fast crashes. But for DH, MX helmets are where it's at.

Alex has it right.

This is worth you reading:

http://www.pinkbike.com/news/DH-Helmets-vs-Motocross-Helmets-Which-Is-Safer.html
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Re: Tell me about neck braces - now the hypes passed!
« Reply #145 on: Oct 26, 2012, 22:57 »
Also, motorbike protection is possibly over-rated for MTB use (and not in the hype way).

Using road certified lid, for example, puts your brain at greater risk than it needs to be as it's designed for a much faster crash than is achievable on a mountainbike. Thus the EPS liner is harder, meaning it squashes less than a softer one in a low speed crash, giving your brain less room to slow down.[1]

Essentially, Mr Paton's doing himself a disservice by wearing that SE instead of a D3.

Does the same go for neck braces? is an MTB scorpion with <20kg of bike landing on you equal to an MX scorpion with 150kg of bike landing on you?

One size does not fit all.

[1] Very interesting reading.

I'm calling b*lls**t on that one. Speaking as someone who has written off a few from compression damage following crashes...

They're not too hard or thick or rated for too many G's. You can achieve 30mph to a dead stop if you hit a tree/rock on an MTB. That's plenty enough G force to need an MX lid. Ask a physicist.

Maybe for XC or family use it would be better to have a "softer" helmet that decelerated you head more slowly but was useless for fast crashes. But for DH, MX helmets are where it's at.

Alex has it right.

This is worth you reading:

http://www.pinkbike.com/news/DH-Helmets-vs-Motocross-Helmets-Which-Is-Safer.html

Read it when it first came out and still disagree.

P.S. When WC DH riders stop wearing them I'll consider getting a helmet that's only MTB certified but while I've got a list as long as ur arm of WC DH racers in MX lids I'll stick to mine thanks.
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Re: Tell me about neck braces - now the hypes passed!
« Reply #146 on: Oct 27, 2012, 05:02 »
But the vast majority actually wears DH lids.
Also, what qualifies a wc racer as a scientific expert, surely the ones who do wear mx lids do so because of personal preference?

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Re: Tell me about neck braces - now the hypes passed!
« Reply #147 on: Oct 27, 2012, 05:31 »
World cup riders also use power bands and other magic talismans, in addition to riding a damned sight faster than I ever will. I'm more inclined to believe the peer reviewed research to be honest Will.

This is before we get on to the idea that putting a heavy helmet than is neccesary on your head might not be great for the health of your neck. For sure you would not catch me reccomending anything but a lightweight cycling oriented full face on a child/adolescent/small woman.

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Re: Tell me about neck braces - now the hypes passed!
« Reply #148 on: Oct 27, 2012, 08:12 »
Friend of mine did his masters research on helmets and IIRC correctly came to the conclusion that the weight of the lid has a huge impact on damage after - i.e. the heavier the helmet the more at risk you are of brain damage as well as neck injuries.

I will ask next time I speak to him mind as I'm not too sure on that.

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Re: Tell me about neck braces - now the hypes passed!
« Reply #149 on: Nov 01, 2012, 14:07 »
I have found this thread quite interesting! (despite the usual forum bickering).

I had a minor neck injury this week, at slow speed, which had our friendly neighbourhood off duty paramedic call 999, i got collared, back boarded, and specialist 6x6 ambulance off our little hill and given a once over in A and E, to find no fracture. Followed by lots of mockery by my mates for wasting money. I only ride in shinnies, Full face, 5/10s and gloves.

I had gone over the bars and cartwheeled, catching my helmet clad head on the way through and had instant pain and discomfort. (i am not usually one to make a song and dance about injury).

This incident has made me really consider a neck brace now as i consider being able to ride more important than anything else! So a neckbrace seems a good idea to me.
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